Ricky Dineen
Ricky Dineen (born 2 April 1962) is an Irish musician best known as the co-songwriter, guitarist, and at times bassist with the post-punk band Five Go Down to the Sea?, earlier known as Nun Attax, later as Beethoven.[1] He wrote most of the band's music, developed their angular guitar style, which he said was influenced by The Mekons, The Fire Engines and Gang of Four.[2]
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Background information | |
Birth name | Ricky Dineen |
Born | Churchfield, Cork City, Ireland | 2 April 1962
Genres | Post-punk |
Occupation(s) | guitarist |
Years active | 1978–present |
Labels | Reekus Records Abstract Sounds Kabuki Records Creation Records Setanta Records |
Associated acts | Nun Attax Five Go Down to the Sea? Beethoven Big Boy Foolish And NUN Came Back |
Nun Attax / Five Go Down To The Sea? were active between 1978 and 1985 and released three EPs; Knot a Fish (1983), The Glee Club (1984), and Singing in Braille (1985). His career highlight came in June 1989 when he reformed with FGDTS vocalist Finbarr Donnelly as Beethoven (also known as "Beethoven Fucking Beethoven") for the EP Him Goolie Goolie Man, Dem, featured as "Single of the Week" by the NME on 4 June 1989. The band's success was cut short when Donnelly accidentally drowned on the 18th of that month. Afterwards Dineen returned to Cork, where he still lives.
Five Go Down To The Sea? were hugely influential on later generations of Irish bands and are widely credited for the often quirky and deadpan approach of Cork bands that followed in the 1990s and 2000s.[3] Dineen currently writes for and plays guitar with Big Boy Foolish.
Career
Nun Attax / Five Go Down to the Sea?
Dineen grew up in Churchfield in Cork City. He formed a band in 1978 with school friends Philip and Keith O’Connell. He met vocalist Finbarr Donnelly in 1978, when they bonded over a shared interest in UFOs and music.[4] Until then Dineen had been a hard rock and Pink Floyd fan; Donnelly introduced him to post-punk and bands featured on John Peel's BBC radio show.[5][6]
Dineen has been active on the post punk scene since 1978,[7] during which time he has recorded for Reekus Records, Kabuki Records,[5] Abstract Sounds and Creation Records.[8] Nun Attax developed an early live following in Ireland, becoming scene leaders in the punk movement that grew around the Arcadia ballroom, managed by Elvera Butler and Andy Foster.[8][9] In 1981 three of their songs were featured on the live compilation album Kaught at the Kampus, alongside tracks by Microdisney, Mean Features and Urban Blitz. The album was recorded on 30 August 1980 for Reekus Records.[10]
In 1983 they renamed as Five Go Down to the Sea? and recruited Úna Ní Chanainn on cello to play the bass parts. The band's sound changed significantly around this time, moving away from their punk roots towards a more Captain Beefheart and surreal sound.[10] They recorded their most acclaimed EP Knot a Fish later that year.[10] It was described in 2001 by Cathal Coughlan of Microdisney and The Fatima Mansions sas "was just incredible...completely different to Nun Attax...it wasn't like a rock band anymore, it was...bizarre but coherent. Nothing when on for longer than two and a half minutes...[it was] a completely focused attack of extreme Cork eccentricity." [11]
The band moved to London that winter, where they built a live following across England, with most of their fan base centered in the north. They released two further EPs, The Glee Club (Abstract Sounds, 1984) and Singing in Braille (Creation, 1984). Dineen was unhappy with the Creation recording and said in 2014 that while he liked the Foster, the band was trying to do something that they weren't suited to and that they "were trying to be over the top a bit...and it was a disappointment".[12] The band went into hiatus in 1985, although Dineen and Donnelly stayed in London and played a number of gigs with a drum machine early in 1986, but without industry interest.[11][13]
Beethoven
The two reformed as Beethoven (at first known as "Beethoven Fucking Beethoven") in 1988 and released the Him Goolie Goolie Man, Dem EP on Setanta Records the following year.[5][14] In his review for the NME, writer Steven Wells awarded the record “Single of the Week”, and said that "The centrestone of this jewel of a record is the kidnapping, tarring and feathering, mugging, shagging and destruction of "Day Tripper".[4][15] Before they could build on this success, Donnelly accidentally drowned 18 June 1989 while swimming in Hyde Park's Serpentine Pond, aged 27.[3][16] Dineen had been out with him that day, and they had planned to meet up later in the evening.[16] He later said, "If you went out for the craic with your friends on a Sunday afternoon and one of them didn't come back, it's surreal-like. Even though we were both 27, you're still young. It changes your whole life because we went from planning our future, thinking we were going to be in England for a while, to the next minute being on the flight back to Ireland."[4]
Their planned second single was never released.[7][13] Grief stricken and with the band at a sudden end, Dineen returned to Cork shortly afterwards, where he "drank [his] way though the 1990s", until his career revived in the early 2000s.[17]
Big Boy Foolish
Dineen currently plays guitar in Big Boy Foolish with guitarist and vocalist Liam Heffernan.[18] He leads the occasional Five Go Down To The Sea? memorial band And NUN Came Back[17][19] along with Heffernan, vocalist Tom Healy, bassist Humphrey Murphy, and drummer Ian Walsh.[20]
In June 2020, Big Boy Foolish released their debut single "Horsey!",[21][22] described by Mike McGrath Bryan of The Evening Echo as continuing Dineen's sound "along a grinning, black-humored trajectory".[23] Their second single, "Up the Airy", was released in August 2020.[24]
Legacy
Five Go Down to the Sea? have steadily grown in popularity since. According to Morty McCarthy of The Sultans Of Ping, they are "the sacred cow of Cork music; they're almost the untouchable band. Every band whose heard of them looks up to [them]."[10]
In 2001, the Irish documentary producer Paul McDermott released "Get That Monster off the Stage", a radio documentary about the band.[17][25][26] The well received FGDTTS? compilation album Hiding from the Landlord was released in April 2020, accompanied by a twenty-page fanzine with contributions from Elvira Butler, Cathal Coughlan of Microdisney, Pete Astor of The Weather Prophets, Gavin Friday of the Virgin Prunes, and writers John Robb, Kevin Barry, Declan Lynch and Cónal Creedon.[8][27]
The band were commemorated in August 2020 on a mural on Cork's Grand Parade; a collaboration between Cork City Libraries and Cork City Council to mark the 40th anniversary of the recording of "Kaught at the Kampus". The two panel mural contains a full size photograph of the band, as well as a reprint of a fanzine interview with them.[28]
Discography
Nun Attax
- Kaught at the Kampus, various artists recorded at the Arcadia ballroom on 30 August 1980, Reekus Records, released 1981. Re-issued 2015[8]
- Dave Fanning Radio Session, RTÉ2, 9 February 1981. Five tracks[upper-alpha 1]
Five Go Down to the Sea?
- Knot a Fish, Kabuki Records, 1983. EP
- 1st Fanning Session, RTÉ, 18 October November 1983. Five tracks[upper-alpha 2]
- The Glee Club, Abstract Sounds, 1984. EP[8]
- 2nd Fanning Session, RTÉ2, 20 November 1984. Three tracks[upper-alpha 3]
- Singing in Braille, Creation Records, August 1985, EP[29][30]
- Hiding from the Landlord, AllCity Records, 2020. Compilation album[27]
Beethoven
- Him Goolie Goolie Man, Dem, Setanta Records, June 1989. EP[5]
Big Boy Foolish
- "Horsey!", single, June 2020[18]
- "Up The Airy", single, August 2020
- "B-B-F", single, December 2020
- "Nunzerkat", single, January 2021
Footnotes
- The five tracks are "The Woodcutter Song", "Looking for Words For My Book", "Alynut", "Phantom Gobi", "Eidelweiss"
- The five tracks are "Big Brown Ceann", "These Boots Were Made", "Wild my Cigar Meryl Streeps", "Lorry Across the Lee", "Blue Moon Song"
- The three tracks are "Are You A Horse", "Unga Bungasong", "Tell Elvis I love Her"
References
Citations
- McAvoy 2016, p. 57.
- McAvoy 2016, p. 56.
- Roy 2017.
- O'Neill 2019.
- Murray 2020.
- O'Driscoll 2014.
- McAvoy 2016, p. 128.
- McDermott 2016.
- McAvoy 2016, p. 52.
- McDermott 2020.
- McDermott 2001.
- Left of the Dial 2014.
- McAvoy 2016, p. 126.
- McDermott & Byrne 2020, p. 17.
- Wells 1989.
- O'Byrne 2020.
- McGrath-Bryan 2019.
- Power 2020.
- "Cyprus Avenue, Caroline St. Donnelly - 30th Anniversary Retrospective 8pm, adm €10". Evening Echo, 18 June 2019. Retrieved 17 May 2020.
- "The Pavilion presents DONNELLY a 25 year retrospective". musician.ie. Retrieved 30 may 2020.
- "Horsey!". Music.apple, June 2020. Retrieved 1 July 2020
- O'Driscoll 2020.
- McGrath-Bryan 2020.
- Mac 2020.
- "New Finbarr Donnelly oral history". Hot Press. 31 May 2016. Retrieved 10 May 2020.
- "EL writer wins journalism prize". Irish Times. 23 April 2002.
- Clark 2020.
- O'Dwyer 2020.
- Cavanagh 2000, p. 148.
- Bonner 2015.
Sources
- Bonner, Micheal (8 July 2015). "Creation Records box set due for release". Uncut. Retrieved 10 May 2020.
- Cavanagh, David (2000). The Creation Records Story: My Magpie Eyes Are Hungry for the Prize. London: Virgin Books. ISBN 978-0-7535-0645-5.
- Clark, Stuart (17 April 2020). "Cork musical legend Finbarr Donnelly celebrated on Hiding From The Landlord compilation". Hot Press. Retrieved 4 May 2020.
- Mac, Dave (24 September 2020). "From Nun Attax & Five Go Down To The Sea, Ricky Dineen is now Big Boy Foolish". Red FM. Retrieved 5 December 2020.
- McAvoy, Mark (2016). Cork Rock: From Rory Gallagher to the Sultans of Ping. Cork: Mercier Press. ISBN 978-0-9956-1760-5.
- McDermott, Paul; Byrne, John (2020), Hiding From The Landlord (sleeve notes), Dublin: AllCity Records.
- McDermott, Paul (25 April 2020). "The sounds of Finbarr Donnelly - Cork's cult hero remembered". RTÉ. Retrieved 4 May 2020.
- McDermott, Paul (2016). "The story of Finbarr Donnelly and his bands Nun Attax, Five Go Down To the Sea? and Beethoven". Medium. Retrieved 9 May 2020.
- McDermott, Paul (2001). Get That Monster Off The Stage (audio documentary). Raidió Teilifís Éireann.
- McGrath-Bryan, Mike (22 May 2019). "Red on Red - Episode Sixty Eight - Big Boy Foolish". redfm.ie. Cork's Red FM. Retrieved 17 May 2020.
- McGrath-Bryan, Mike (29 July 2020). "Big Boy Foolish - "Horsey!". The Evening Echo. Retrieved 5 December 2020.
- Murray, Eoin (31 March 2020). "Anois, Os Ard: March In Irish Underground". The Quietus. Retrieved 4 May 2020.
- O'Byrne, Eilie (1 April 2020). "B-Side the Leeside: Nun Attax and the Knocknaheeny Shuffle". Irish Examiner. Retrieved 4 May 2020.
- O'Driscoll, Des (13 June 2014). "Recalling the great nights of Cork's Arcadia". Irish Examiner. Retrieved 10 May 2020.
- O'Driscoll, Des (15 July 2020). "Question of Taste: Cork actor and musician Liam Heffernan answers our quick-fire questions". Irish Examiner. Retrieved 18 July 2020.
- O'Dwyer, Sarah (26 August 2020). "Artwork marks Cork's post-punk scene". The Echo. Retrieved 27 August 2020.
- O'Neill, Ryan (12 June 2019). "Cork remembers post-punk icon Finbarr Donnelly". Cork Independent. Retrieved 4 May 2020.
- Power, Ed (29 July 2020). "B-Side the Leeside: Kaught at the Kampus". Irish Examiner. Retrieved 30 July 2020.
- Left of the Dial (10 July 2014). "Ricky Dineen (Nun Attax/Five Go Down to the Sea?/Beethoveen)". Left of the Dial. Retrieved 26 July 2020.
- Roy, David (10 February 2017). "A real Corker: Author Mark McAvoy on his Cork Rock music bible". The Irish News. Retrieved 4 May 2020.
- Wells, Steven (3 June 1989). "Single of the week". NME.
External links
- Five Go Down To The Sea? Facebook page
- Big Boy Foolish Facebook page
- There's a Fish on Top of Shandon (Swears He's Elvis) Five Go Down To The Sea?
- "Elephants for fun and profit" And NUN Came Back
- "Horsey!" Big Boy Foolish