Nottingham derby

The Nottingham derby is the name given to football matches contested between Nottingham Forest and Notts County.

Nottingham derby

Flag of Nottinghamshire
Other names	Trentside derby
Locale	Nottingham
Teams	Nottingham Forest, Notts County
First meeting	Notts County 1-3 Nottingham Forest 1878–79 FA Cup (16 November 1878)
Latest meeting	Nottingham Forest 3-3 (4-3 p) Notts County 2011–12 Football League Cup (9 August 2011)
Next meeting	TBD
Stadiums	City Ground Meadow Lane
Statistics
Meetings total	96
Most wins	Nottingham Forest (40)
All-time series	Nottingham Forest: 40 Draw: 26 Notts County: 30
Largest victory	Nottingham Forest 5-0 Notts County 1900–01 First Division (24 November 1900) Nottingham Forest 5-0 Notts County 1953–54 Second Division (10 October 1953)

History

The two clubs are amongst the oldest football clubs in the World. County were formed in 1862 and are the oldest professional association football club in the world. Forest were formed three years later by a group of men playing the now largely unknown sport of Bandy.[1]

The first meeting between the two clubs was a friendly on 22 March 1866. The match was a 0-0 draw and was probably on the Forest Recreation Ground.[1]

The first competitive meeting in the FA Cup came on 16 November 1878 and resulted in a 3-1 victory for Nottingham Forest. The first league game occurred on 8 October 1892 and resulted in a 3-1 victory for Notts County.[1]

The last league Nottingham derby occurred on 12 February 1994 and resulted in a 2–1 victory for Notts County. Charlie Palmer (or 'Sir' Charlie Palmer as he has been dubbed by Notts County fans) scored with just four minutes remaining and only ninety seconds after Forest had equalised. The date, 12 February, is now known to local fans as Charlie Palmer Day.[2]

Comparative table positions of Nottingham Forest and Notts County in the English football league system

The rivalry was resurrected on 9 August 2011, when the clubs met in the first round of the Football League Cup at the City Ground, with Forest winning a penalty shootout after the match had ended 3–3.[3]

Aerial image of the two club's grounds

The two clubs rarely meet as they are in different tiers of the league system and supporters generally view other regional clubs as more prominent rivals. However, recent years have seen incidents of trouble between supporters. In 2007, a 'friendly' match between the clubs saw violence erupt after the final whistle. [4] And in 2017, several followers of both sides were convicted of taking part in a prearranged mass brawl in a pub in Nottingham.[5] Another friendly match the previous summer also saw four arrests.[6]

Statistics

The two clubs have met a total of 94 times in the League, FA Cup and League Cup. The two sides have contested games in a number of other competitions including the Nottinghamshire County Senior Cup and the Anglo-Italian Cup. The results and statistics from those games are not included below.[1]

	County wins	Draws	Forest wins
League	28	23	35
FA Cup	2	1	3
League Cup	0	0	2
Total	30	24	40

League

Notts County in the league at home Date Venue Score Competition 8 October 1892 Trent Bridge 3–0 First Division 9 October 1897 Trent Bridge 1–3 First Division 8 October 1898 Trent Bridge 2–2 First Division 11 November 1899 Trent Bridge 1–2 First Division 26 December 1900 Trent Bridge 1–0 First Division 16 November 1901 Trent Bridge 3–0 First Division 26 December 1902 Trent Bridge 1–1 First Division 28 November 1903 Trent Bridge 1–3 First Division 25 March 1905 Trent Bridge 1–2 First Division 4 November 1905 Trent Bridge 1–1 First Division 4 April 1908 Trent Bridge 2–0 First Division 21 November 1908 Trent Bridge 3–0 First Division 8 January 1910 Trent Bridge 4–1 First Division 3 September 1910 Meadow Lane 1–1 First Division 25 December 1913 Meadow Lane 2–2 Second Division 18 September 1920 Meadow Lane 2–0 Second Division 5 November 1921 Meadow Lane 1–1 Second Division 22 September 1923 Meadow Lane 2–1 First Division 20 September 1924 Meadow Lane 0–0 First Division 18 September 1926 Meadow Lane 1–2 Second Division 22 February 1928 Meadow Lane 1–2 Second Division 20 October 1928 Meadow Lane 1–1 Second Division 4 January 1930 Meadow Lane 0–0 Second Division 13 February 1932 Meadow Lane 2–6 Second Division 8 October 1932 Meadow Lane 2–4 Second Division 17 February 1934 Meadow Lane 1–0 Second Division 29 September 1934 Meadow Lane 3–5 Second Division 22 April 1950 Meadow Lane 2–0 Third Division (South) 15 September 1951 Meadow Lane 2–2 Second Division 30 August 1952 Meadow Lane 3–2 Second Division 27 February 1954 Meadow Lane 1–1 Second Division 12 February 1955 Meadow Lane 4–1 Second Division 11 February 1956 Meadow Lane 1–3 Second Division 20 October 1956 Meadow Lane 1–2 Second Division 26 December 1974 Meadow Lane 0–1 Second Division 25 March 1975 Meadow Lane 2–2 Second Division 13 April 1976 Meadow Lane 0–0 Second Division 9 April 1977 Meadow Lane 1–1 Second Division 12 April 1982 Meadow Lane 1–2 First Division 4 December 1982 Meadow Lane 3–2 First Division 31 March 1984 Meadow Lane 0–0 First Division 24 August 1991 Meadow Lane 0–4 First Division 12 February 1994 Meadow Lane 2–1 First Division (tier 2)

Nottingham Forest in the league at home Date Venue Score Competition 25 February 1893 Trent Bridge 3–1 First Division 4 September 1897 Trent Bridge 1–1 First Division 4 February 1899 City Ground 0–0 First Division 17 March 1900 City Ground 0–3 First Division 24 November 1900 City Ground 5–0 First Division 26 December 1901 City Ground 1–0 First Division 15 November 1902 City Ground 0–0 First Division 26 December 1903 City Ground 0–1 First Division 26 November 1904 City Ground 2–1 First Division 26 December 1905 City Ground 1–2 First Division 7 December 1907 City Ground 2–0 First Division 27 March 1909 City Ground 1–0 First Division 4 September 1909 City Ground 2–1 First Division 26 December 1910 City Ground 0–2 First Division 31 December 1913 City Ground 1–0 Second Division 11 September 1920 City Ground 1–0 Second Division 14 November 1921 City Ground 0–0 Second Division 29 September 1923 City Ground 1–0 First Division 24 January 1925 City Ground 0–0 First Division 5 February 1927 City Ground 2–0 Second Division 17 September 1927 City Ground 2–1 Second Division 2 March 1929 City Ground 1–2 Second Division 7 September 1929 City Ground 1–1 Second Division 3 October 1931 City Ground 2–1 Second Division 18 February 1933 City Ground 3–0 Second Division 7 October 1934 City Ground 2–0 Second Division 9 February 1935 City Ground 2–3 Second Division 3 December 1949 City Ground 1–2 Third Division (South) 10 October 1953 City Ground 3–2 Second Division 3 January 1953 City Ground 1–0 Second Division 10 October 1953 City Ground 5–0 Second Division 25 September 1954 City Ground 0–1 Second Division 1 October 1955 City Ground 0–2 Second Division 1 May 1957 City Ground 2–4 Second Division 3 March 1974 City Ground 0–0 Second Division 28 December 1974 City Ground 0–2 Second Division 30 August 1975 City Ground 0–1 Second Division 8 March 1977 City Ground 1–2 Second Division 23 January 1982 City Ground 0–2 First Division 23 April 1983 City Ground 2–1 First Division 16 October 1983 City Ground 3–1 First Division 11 January 1992 City Ground 1–1 First Division 30 October 1993 City Ground 1–0 First Division (tier 2)

Cup matches

Date	Venue	Matches			Competition
		Team 1	Score	Team 2
16 November 1878	Trent Bridge	Notts County	1–3	Nottingham Forest	FA Cup
8 November 1879	Trent Bridge	Nottingham Forest	4–0	Notts County	FA Cup
1 December 1883	Trent Bridge	Notts County	3–0	Nottingham Forest	FA Cup
26 November 1887	Trent Bridge	Nottingham Forest	2–1	Notts County	FA Cup
24 February 1894	Trent Bridge	Nottingham Forest	1–1	Notts County	FA Cup
3 March 1894	Trent Bridge	Notts County	4–1	Nottingham Forest	FA Cup
1 January 1978	City Ground	Nottingham Forest	4–0	Notts County	League Cup
9 August 2011	City Ground	Nottingham Forest	3–3 4-3 pens	Notts County	League Cup

References

1. Smales, Ken (2006). Nottingham Forest The Official Statistical History. Pineapple Books.
2. "February 12 will always be 'Charlie Palmer Day'". 16 February 2013. Archived from the original on 10 July 2015.
3. "Nottingham Forest 3–3 Notts County (4–3 on penalties)". BBC Sport. BBC. 9 August 2011. Retrieved 20 October 2012.
4. "Fans face bans over pitch fights". BBC. 31 July 2007.
5. "Nottingham Forest and Notts County fans locked up over mass brawl in city pub". Nottingham Post. 27 April 2017. Archived from the original on 1 May 2017. Retrieved 3 May 2017.
6. "Four arrested at Forest v Notts County match". Nottingham Post. 23 July 2016. Archived from the original on 24 July 2016. Retrieved 3 May 2017.

External links

• Violence mars 'friendly' match between city rivals
• Nottingham derby head-to-head
• British Pathé footage from a Nottingham derby, 1953